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I neglected to add that these people cannot afford a co-pay cost for every medical visit they need. That's where they fall through the cracks of this medicaid assistance. When one man's pre-esophageal cancer needs to be checked weekly, that's another $120 he has to plunk out of his SS check in that month. He and his wife only receive 1,200 a month in SS. Thoise people are receiving medicare, not Medicaid. Haven't you been paying attention - there is a difference. Medicaid is not Medicare. Medicare is not Medicaid. Bruce
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I neglected to add that these people cannot afford a co-pay cost for every medical visit they need. That's where they fall through the cracks of this medicaid assistance. When one man's pre-esophageal cancer needs to be checked weekly, that's another $120 he has to plunk out of his SS check in that month. He and his wife only receive 1,200 a month in SS. Their rent is $400/mo. There's nothing fancy in the way they live - no traveling, and church is their option of entertainment. They have to pay propane, electric and a reduced phone service. They also like TV and cable is cheapest. So paying out weekly co-pay is ridiculous high expense for them. They need to maintain their vehicle, so usually I just buy the part and give it to him to fix their vehicle. I started to type almost the same thing last night, but you said it so well it saved me the trouble. Good job. Hunter Huh? LK usually furnishes 100% bogus information and I believe this is just another sample. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/27/us/27medicaid.html The co-payments will help Medicaid recipients become more educated and efficient health care consumers, the administration said. The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that 13 million low-income people, about a fifth of Medicaid recipients, will face new or higher co-payments. Most of the savings result from decreased use of services, it said. The rule allows states to establish a sliding scale for premiums and co-payments. The total of these charges, for all members of a family, cannot exceed 5 percent of the familys income. For Medicaid recipients with incomes at or below the poverty level ($17,600 for a family of three), a state can charge co-payments up to $3.40 for a doctors visit or other service. The maximum amount will be updated each year to reflect medical inflation. For Medicaid recipients with incomes from 100 percent to 150 percent of the poverty level ($17,600 to $26,400 for a family of three), states can generally require a beneficiary to pay up to 10 percent of what the state pays for a service, like a doctors visit. ************************* If LK has stated the facts, an income of $1200/mo would mean the couple cannot be charged more than $670 PER YEAR, in co-pays. That's 5% of their income, according to mental math. LZ That article is dated in 2008. This article does not finish telling you that the co-pay is determined by each state either. Your informative article is incomplete. So counter it with an article that reflects the situation where you live. Note the article I posted reflects FEDERAL RULES. States can set their own co-pays but (unless they obtain a waiver) MUST live within the federal guidelines. Soooooo, until you post conflicting information from a reliable source, my informative article tells us all we need to know. LZ - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - LK
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minus a co-pay since they refused to move to a nursing home. They want to finish guiding their 17 year old grandson into a proper future. Maybe after Luke is raised, they will consider a nursing home, but for now, they will not. _base_d on that, I see no reason for them to be put out to pasture when they are still a nurturing family. It's their choice and therefore not a taxpayer responsibility. LZ - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - LK
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extended health care OT ~ Top Canada Doc: "(our) ...System Is Imploding."
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I neglected to add that these people cannot afford a co-pay cost for every medical visit they need. That's where they fall through the cracks of this medicaid assistance. When one man's pre-esophageal cancer needs to be checked weekly, that's another $120 he has to plunk out of his SS check in that month. He and his wife only receive 1,200 a month in SS. So they obviously paid in minimal amounts during their working years. Whose fault is that? Their rent is $400/mo. There's nothing fancy in the way they live - no traveling, and church is their option of entertainment. They have to pay propane, electric and a reduced phone service. They also like TV and cable is cheapest. So paying out weekly co-pay is ridiculous high expense for them. They need to maintain their vehicle, so usually I just buy the part and give it to him to fix their vehicle. Where did you get that everything is handed to them on a silver platter? How do you come to that conclusion? His wife has one leg and her prosthetic is old and needs a new liner. Now, when in their trailer and she walks, the leg falls off and down she goes. She has a walker for when she is out. You're trying to tell me that Medicaid is available for the extremely low income people and that's enough and there's no reason to find other medical assistance that costs less for these people. Sorry, Frank, they need to be able to have medical coverage that doesn't cost anything so they can pay for their livelihood, period. http://www.medicaid.state.wa.us/documents/Program_Resources/3M-1_Co-P... Something about your story smells fishy. I think your story needs to be sent to the White House for investigation. You don't mind if you are added to their mailing list, do you? LZ Your trying to avoid the problem rather than finding a solution for these people. LK Your _link_ is bogus.........incomplete and does not work. LK It shows which type of visits require a co-pay. Your tale of woe is _base_d on incomplete or false information. LZ
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wrote in message And a Cadillac costs more than a Hyundai, but you get so much more for it. I beg to differ  Try a high quality Hyundai Genesis or Azera and you'll never want to drive another product from 0bama Motors. I've tried Cadillac, BMW, Audi, Porsche 911T and Mercedes. Value for $, or even regardless of $, Hyundai has them beat. I knew I should have specified a Hyundai Accent (or a Kia Rio). <g Bruce
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Dropping all the public health care option is a disservice to the poor. You've never watched people suffer without private insurance. The only reason poor people in this country would ever have to be uninsured is because they are too lazy to sign up for it. Poor people are covered by Medicaid in every state. Bruce ..........and Medicare - but there IS a Limit on cost of care. Their SS checks combined do not cover their needed cost anymore. If you believe differently, that's fine. You've never seen them or else you saw them and ignored them. If you travel at all, you can't miss them. LK So what are those limits? Where are they written so I can look them up? Nursing homes are full of people whose full care is being paid by Medicaid....in fact I understand that nursing homes take the biggest bite out of Medicaid funding. At least in MN. LZ You have to check with your state. Fees are negotiated by state. So which states don't pay nursing home costs for those on Medicaid and found by Social Services to need nursing home care? None of the people I see regularly are in a nursing home, they are living in RVs and I help them as much as I can. If they are living in RVs then State Social Services has not found them helpless enough to require nursing home care. LZ They are living in a single wide trailer in the same RV park they've lived in for the past 8 years beginning in their travel trailer which dry rotted too bad and began leaking last August in a rainstorm. They refused nursing home care because he said he wasn't living in a beehive, so she just followed his lead. He is her husband and she believes his final word is in both of their best interests. Living in a nursing home until you die is a choice. Not always true. Social Services often makes the decision for elderly people who wish to live in their homes but for some reason are at risk if they do. You either have to retain a certain degree of mobility to care for yourself or have a responsible person who agrees (in writing) to be responsible. Esposa has two aunts who are in that category right now. Some people do not choose that option because of their love of their own freedom and their garden and flowers and the ability to create goodness in others around them in a place where other people who are visiting all the time make them happy. And they couldn't finish raising their 17 year old grandson if they live in a nursing home either. If necessary, Social Services will take care of that chore also. LZ I see it is difficult to understand that they are mobile enough to drive and get around to their own appointments in their vehicle. Their grandson was turned over to them by CPS and DSHS takes care of his needs. CPS and DSHS, both, visit their trailer every so often and they are unannounced visits where state agencies check on their grandson. This couple are trying very hard to finish raising their grandson in the proper family surroundings. No, Social Services are already helping to make those choices and deem that couple fit to take care of their grandson because they are good people who are in a high-risk medical category, but they STILL have to make their co-payments. LK
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