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Can an American please explain why everyone getting health care is so bad? We have it in Australia and it isn't the end of the world. How is health care socialism? If you are a socialist for wanting health care does that mean Australia is a socialist country? If so then America has socialist allies hehehe
 
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Can an American please explain why everyone getting health care is so bad? We have it in Australia and it isn't the end of the world. How is health care socialism? If you are a socialist for wanting health care does that mean Australia is a socialist country? If so then America has socialist allies hehehe As far as I can tell, (being from Canada, a socialist country that in reality is more democratic than the Fascist States of America), the issue from what I can tell is what rights they are giving up in return for healthcare. Healthcare should be a tax issue at worst, and a humanitarian issue at best. There is no need to surrender any freedoms for society-ized healthcare. It would seem the bill has a hefty price, and the judges are all to willing to go along. Unfortunately, the fucktards that are whining about healthcare are also the people that supported the <ahem Patriot act. There are very few US Federal politicians that shouldn't be hanged* for treason. (*Same for Canada, but we don't have the death penalty.) In summation, the people funding the US polifascists don't really care who wins the election, because they think long term.  If item A gets done by the left first, fine.  If item B gets done by the right first, OK. Americans are too stupid to realize they are voting against themselves.  They can't vote more than a few months into the future.  Well, 90% of them anyway.
 
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treason. (*Same for Canada, but we don't have the death penalty.) In summation, the people funding the US polifascists don't really care who wins the election, because they think long term.  If item A gets done by the left first, fine.  If item B gets done by the right first, OK. Americans are too stupid to realize they are voting against themselves. They can't vote more than a few months into the future.  Well, 90% of them anyway.
 
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Can an American please explain why everyone getting health care is so bad? We have it in Australia and it isn't the end of the world. How is health care socialism? If you are a socialist for wanting health care does that mean Australia is a socialist country? If so then America has socialist allies hehehe As far as I can tell, (being from Canada, a socialist country that in reality is more democratic than the Fascist States of America), the issue from what I can tell is what rights they are giving up in return for healthcare. Healthcare should be a tax issue at worst, and a humanitarian issue at best. There is no need to surrender any freedoms for society-ized healthcare. It would seem the bill has a hefty price, and the judges are all to willing to go along. Unfortunately, the fucktards that are whining about healthcare are also the people that supported the <ahem Patriot act. There are very few US Federal politicians that shouldn't be hanged* for treason. (*Same for Canada, but we don't have the death penalty.) In summation, the people funding the US polifascists don't really care who wins the election, because they think long term.  If item A gets done by the left first, fine.  If item B gets done by the right first, OK. Americans are too stupid to realize they are voting against themselves. They can't vote more than a few months into the future.  Well, 90% of them anyway. The real problem is we're polarized beyond any chance of reconciliation. I don't want to live with the policies lefties want and they don't want to live with the policies I want. On many of them, there is no compromise, or the compromise just leaves both sides pissed off. The only real solution is to split the country down the middle and watch the leftist portion become eastern Germany before the fall of the Berlin wall. TC
 
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Can an American please explain why everyone getting health care is so bad? We have it in Australia and it isn't the end of the world. How is health care socialism? If you are a socialist for wanting health care does that mean Australia is a socialist country? If so then America has socialist allies hehehe As far as I can tell, (being from Canada, a socialist country that in reality is more democratic than the Fascist States of America), the issue from what I can tell is what rights they are giving up in return for healthcare. Healthcare should be a tax issue at worst, and a humanitarian issue at best. There is no need to surrender any freedoms for society-ized healthcare. It would seem the bill has a hefty price, and the judges are all to willing to go along. Unfortunately, the fucktards that are whining about healthcare are also the people that supported the <ahem Patriot act. There are very few US Federal politicians that shouldn't be hanged* for treason. (*Same for Canada, but we don't have the death penalty.) In summation, the people funding the US polifascists don't really care who wins the election, because they think long term.  If item A gets done by the left first, fine.  If item B gets done by the right first, OK. Americans are too stupid to realize they are voting against themselves. They can't vote more than a few months into the future.  Well, 90% of them anyway. The real problem is we're polarized beyond any chance of reconciliation. I don't want to live with the policies lefties want and they don't want to live with the policies I want. On many of them, there is no compromise, or the compromise just leaves both sides pissed off. The only real solution is to split the country down the middle and watch the leftist portion become eastern Germany before the fall of the Berlin wall. TC But there is compromise.  I know I sound like a broken rocord on this, but there is a bill proposed by Sen. Wyden (D) of OR, and Sen. Bennett (R)of Utah, and cosponsored by 5 other democrats and 5 other republicans, truly bipartisan.  This bill would need some tweaking, but it makes health care universal, and it does it with private insurance. It also is radical, it does away with employer _base_d insurance. Personally I think this is a part of reform that is being missed.  All of the bills are trying to tweak the current system and keep employer _base_d health insurance.  If you want to do one thing to help businesses, big and small, do away with employer _base_d health care and take that expense away from them.  It also helps small business owners compete for talent, by leveling the playing field.  Do a google search on Wyden-Bennett health bill. KCC
 
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Can an American please explain why everyone getting health care is so bad? We have it in Australia and it isn't the end of the world. How is health care socialism? If you are a socialist for wanting health care does that mean Australia is a socialist country? If so then America has socialist allies hehehe As far as I can tell, (being from Canada, a socialist country that in reality is more democratic than the Fascist States of America), the issue from what I can tell is what rights they are giving up in return for healthcare. Healthcare should be a tax issue at worst, and a humanitarian issue at best. There is no need to surrender any freedoms for society-ized healthcare. It would seem the bill has a hefty price, and the judges are all to willing to go along. Unfortunately, the fucktards that are whining about healthcare are also the people that supported the <ahem Patriot act. There are very few US Federal politicians that shouldn't be hanged* for treason. (*Same for Canada, but we don't have the death penalty.) In summation, the people funding the US polifascists don't really care who wins the election, because they think long term.  If item A gets done by the left first, fine.  If item B gets done by the right first, OK. Americans are too stupid to realize they are voting against themselves.  They can't vote more than a few months into the future.  Well, 90% of them anyway. The problem is that all the politicians who are against a public health care option are the ones who are beholden to the health insurance industry for their hefty campaign contributions.  It's bribery, pure and simple, and the American people get f**ked for their greed.  And, yes, any American citizen who can't see what's really going on is indeed stupid. Xan
 
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